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		<title>Comment on My search for an accordion by Liviu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liviu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salut poate sa ma ajute cineva caut acordeoane scandalli super vi anii 1960 11+11 sau guerrini superior 2 president anii 1979 tel 0040721185020 liviu_ghitica 1@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salut poate sa ma ajute cineva caut acordeoane scandalli super vi anii 1960 11+11 sau guerrini superior 2 president anii 1979 tel 0040721185020 liviu_ghitica <a href="mailto:1@yahoo.com">1@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Snijeg pade na behar na voće by World of Sevdah</title>
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		<dc:creator>World of Sevdah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subaša is a local town ruler within the Ottoman Empire days.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Snijeg pade na behar na voće by World of Sevdah</title>
		<link>http://worldofsevdah.com/snijeg-pade-na-behar-na-voce/comment-page-1/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>World of Sevdah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Helen,

Thanks for posting these lyrics and they are sung around by many artists, but we can argue that they have been heavily edited over time. The version I posted here is the closer to the originally intended version (and probably original) according to our sources. 

There are no major mistakes in your lyrics, but I would strongly suggest people singing what I posted up, as it has taken a while to come to those (original) lyrics which make more sense as a story anyway. 

Best regards,

Mirza</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Helen,</p>
<p>Thanks for posting these lyrics and they are sung around by many artists, but we can argue that they have been heavily edited over time. The version I posted here is the closer to the originally intended version (and probably original) according to our sources. </p>
<p>There are no major mistakes in your lyrics, but I would strongly suggest people singing what I posted up, as it has taken a while to come to those (original) lyrics which make more sense as a story anyway. </p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Mirza</p>
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		<title>Comment on Snijeg pade na behar na voće by Helen R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the version as sung by Himzo Polovina. Can anyone tell me what &#039;subašama&#039; is/are? 
Also, please could someone correct me if I have put a &#039;ć&#039; where there should be a &#039;č&#039;? I&#039;ve had to add the diacritical letter marks myself, as I could only find the text online without them; and my English ear cannot tell the difference easily! I do not speak Bosnian, I just learn Himzo songs. :)
Helen


Snijeg pade na behar, na voće
neka ljubi ko god koga hoće

Ako neće, nek&#039; se ne nameće
od nameta nema selameta

Da sam sretan, k&#039;o što sam nesretan
pa da dodjem tebi u odaje

Da ti sjedim medju šiltetima
kao paša medju subašama

Da ti ljubim tvoja medna usta
medna usta ostala ti pusta

 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 

  Snow has fallen on blossoms, on fruits
  let anyone loves who he/she wants

  If he/she doesn&#039;t, do not impose
 by imposition, happiness cannot come

 To be happy, as I am unhappy
  to come to your rooms

  to sit amongst your cushions
  like a pasha between ?????

  to kiss your lips of honey 
  (let) desolate become your honey lips!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the version as sung by Himzo Polovina. Can anyone tell me what &#8216;subašama&#8217; is/are?<br />
Also, please could someone correct me if I have put a &#8216;ć&#8217; where there should be a &#8216;č&#8217;? I&#8217;ve had to add the diacritical letter marks myself, as I could only find the text online without them; and my English ear cannot tell the difference easily! I do not speak Bosnian, I just learn Himzo songs. <img src='http://worldofsevdah.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Helen</p>
<p>Snijeg pade na behar, na voće<br />
neka ljubi ko god koga hoće</p>
<p>Ako neće, nek&#8217; se ne nameće<br />
od nameta nema selameta</p>
<p>Da sam sretan, k&#8217;o što sam nesretan<br />
pa da dodjem tebi u odaje</p>
<p>Da ti sjedim medju šiltetima<br />
kao paša medju subašama</p>
<p>Da ti ljubim tvoja medna usta<br />
medna usta ostala ti pusta</p>
<p> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * </p>
<p>  Snow has fallen on blossoms, on fruits<br />
  let anyone loves who he/she wants</p>
<p>  If he/she doesn&#8217;t, do not impose<br />
 by imposition, happiness cannot come</p>
<p> To be happy, as I am unhappy<br />
  to come to your rooms</p>
<p>  to sit amongst your cushions<br />
  like a pasha between ?????</p>
<p>  to kiss your lips of honey<br />
  (let) desolate become your honey lips!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Types of Sevdalinka music accompaniments by Salih</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for the post... I have been waiting for your new posts for a while...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for the post&#8230; I have been waiting for your new posts for a while&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on My search for an accordion by Ofir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ofir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a dallape supermaestro serial number 245,,, does anyone know what year is it ? 

the white keys are straight on the bottom, not curved, its old, but i dont know how old is it.

thank you !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a dallape supermaestro serial number 245,,, does anyone know what year is it ? </p>
<p>the white keys are straight on the bottom, not curved, its old, but i dont know how old is it.</p>
<p>thank you !!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on My search for an accordion by liviu</title>
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		<dc:creator>liviu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 12:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salut ma intereseaza un acordeon scandalli super vi ani 1960 guerrini superior 2 president ani 1979 guerrini superior 3 tel 0040721185020</description>
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		<title>Comment on Cultural genocide in Bosnia by Types of Sevdalinka music accompaniments &#171; World of Sevdah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Types of Sevdalinka music accompaniments &#171; World of Sevdah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 00:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Many heavily synthesised verzions of Sevdalinka arrangements can also be found today and are, by and large, examples of trying to move Sevdalinka into the very dangerous and destructive, quasi musical, post modern style of music known as Turbo Folk. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Many heavily synthesised verzions of Sevdalinka arrangements can also be found today and are, by and large, examples of trying to move Sevdalinka into the very dangerous and destructive, quasi musical, post modern style of music known as Turbo Folk. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cultural genocide in Bosnia by World of Sevdah</title>
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		<dc:creator>World of Sevdah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Filip First of all thanks for your elaborate reply - much appreciated that you are participating within a valuable debate (hopefully). 

I would strongly disagree with your branding of pre-90s turbo-folk as &#039;neo-folk&#039;. It&#039;s simply ridiculous in my view. What you are calling &#039;neo-folk&#039; is simply the &#039;Phase 1 of Turbo Folk&#039; as far as I am concerned. Today&#039;s incarnation of Turbo Folk is a dying breed of music which I am hoping will not exist at all within next 5 years as it has received so many steroids into its cardiovascular system that its imploding from the internal pressure on its own arteries. 

Regarding the accordion and Austro-Hungarian Empire, the idea there is that something similar to Yugoslavia and us singing socialist songs happened. One set of instrumentation becomes uncool and another is imported in heap loads. The result is that the new instrumentation takes over. As people require more accordions, the Saz makers run out of business and demand dwindles, leading to a lack of people who know how to make a Saz and smaller and smaller popularity of that instrument. 

This happens all the time in modern days and can be called or considered as &#039;peer pressure&#039;. For example desktop PCs have been largely superseded by laptops as desktops are seen largely as uncool and not portable. Accordion is a &#039;better&#039; instrument than Saz as it allows two part music to be played, high clarity soloing, more varied sound capabilities and more versatile in general. 

I was not trying to say that Austro-Hungarian Empire imposed accordion upon Bosnia, but their coming to Bosnia inevitably meant that Saz was pushed out through economic and cultural trends, just like Yugoslavian songs were pushed onto Bosnia during Tito era (Sevdalinkas weren&#039;t forbidden, but people didn&#039;t sing them as much).

And as the last point, my article here wasn&#039;t of a political kind, but of a cultural kind. The fact that politics often impacts on culture is something I cannot easily change about the world and it would be silly of me to try and amputate politics out of my articles just to try and make a more non-political argument, when politics has played a major role in it all. Nevertheless I think my mentioning of politics in this article has been minimal or as minimal as possible. 

And also, regarding the way people speak in Bosnia it&#039;s not quite true that people in Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Croatia all speak the same language as I can quite happily recognise people within Bosnia quite quickly even today. They speak the same language crudely speaking, but the dialects are more than recognisable. That plays an important part in understanding Sevdalinka heritage. Words like &#039;pendzer&#039;, &#039;dunjaluk&#039; and &#039;aman&#039; for example are not used by all the aforementioned countries&#039; peoples as widely in regular speak as well as in songs.

My up and coming article is going to be covering the ever-changing type of accompaniment used within Sevdalinka performances. It will not be mentioning politics in any way, shape or form (I think).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Filip First of all thanks for your elaborate reply &#8211; much appreciated that you are participating within a valuable debate (hopefully). </p>
<p>I would strongly disagree with your branding of pre-90s turbo-folk as &#8216;neo-folk&#8217;. It&#8217;s simply ridiculous in my view. What you are calling &#8216;neo-folk&#8217; is simply the &#8216;Phase 1 of Turbo Folk&#8217; as far as I am concerned. Today&#8217;s incarnation of Turbo Folk is a dying breed of music which I am hoping will not exist at all within next 5 years as it has received so many steroids into its cardiovascular system that its imploding from the internal pressure on its own arteries. </p>
<p>Regarding the accordion and Austro-Hungarian Empire, the idea there is that something similar to Yugoslavia and us singing socialist songs happened. One set of instrumentation becomes uncool and another is imported in heap loads. The result is that the new instrumentation takes over. As people require more accordions, the Saz makers run out of business and demand dwindles, leading to a lack of people who know how to make a Saz and smaller and smaller popularity of that instrument. </p>
<p>This happens all the time in modern days and can be called or considered as &#8216;peer pressure&#8217;. For example desktop PCs have been largely superseded by laptops as desktops are seen largely as uncool and not portable. Accordion is a &#8216;better&#8217; instrument than Saz as it allows two part music to be played, high clarity soloing, more varied sound capabilities and more versatile in general. </p>
<p>I was not trying to say that Austro-Hungarian Empire imposed accordion upon Bosnia, but their coming to Bosnia inevitably meant that Saz was pushed out through economic and cultural trends, just like Yugoslavian songs were pushed onto Bosnia during Tito era (Sevdalinkas weren&#8217;t forbidden, but people didn&#8217;t sing them as much).</p>
<p>And as the last point, my article here wasn&#8217;t of a political kind, but of a cultural kind. The fact that politics often impacts on culture is something I cannot easily change about the world and it would be silly of me to try and amputate politics out of my articles just to try and make a more non-political argument, when politics has played a major role in it all. Nevertheless I think my mentioning of politics in this article has been minimal or as minimal as possible. </p>
<p>And also, regarding the way people speak in Bosnia it&#8217;s not quite true that people in Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Croatia all speak the same language as I can quite happily recognise people within Bosnia quite quickly even today. They speak the same language crudely speaking, but the dialects are more than recognisable. That plays an important part in understanding Sevdalinka heritage. Words like &#8216;pendzer&#8217;, &#8216;dunjaluk&#8217; and &#8216;aman&#8217; for example are not used by all the aforementioned countries&#8217; peoples as widely in regular speak as well as in songs.</p>
<p>My up and coming article is going to be covering the ever-changing type of accompaniment used within Sevdalinka performances. It will not be mentioning politics in any way, shape or form (I think).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cultural genocide in Bosnia by Filip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate sevdah music, but this article is really poor. Let alone your interpretation of political history, there are some facts about music history you should get right.

Your theory about &quot;turbo folk conspiracy&quot; is simply absurd. First, you confuse the so called &quot;turbo folk&quot; with &quot;neo-folk&quot;. TF did not even exist before nineties and it developed from the &quot;neo-folk&quot; music that appeared in the 1960s. It was connected with the massive immigration of Yugoslav workers to Germany where they were influenced by the music of the immigrants from Turkey and other countries. This is how many &quot;oriental&quot; elements transferred. &quot;Neo-folk&quot; was long neglected and ignored by the mainstream media in Yugoslavia as the communist cultural politics saw it as a deviation of culture, exactly like you do. Only in the eighties did it really emerge to the wider public scene, as one of the many consequences of the political and economic liberalisation after Tito&#039;s death. Since the people of generally rural origin in Bosnia and Serbia liked that kind of music, publishing houses decided to tap into that market. Pop, rock and punk music also became more prominent in media, not because there was a conspiracy but because there was the scene with the audience ready to spend money.

I also don&#039;t quite understand your idea of Austrian imposition of accordion. Those who brought the accordion obviously tried to play local songs with a new instrument. As a musician you should well understand how this happens. There is no politics in that.

To those who like Ahmed Karim don&#039;t know: the people in Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Croatia all speak the same language (the grammar is the same, there are some lexical differences). So there is no way you can tell Bosniaks, Serbs or Croats living in Bosnia by the way they speak. 

I hope that next time you write about sevdah, you will write more about music and less about politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate sevdah music, but this article is really poor. Let alone your interpretation of political history, there are some facts about music history you should get right.</p>
<p>Your theory about &#8220;turbo folk conspiracy&#8221; is simply absurd. First, you confuse the so called &#8220;turbo folk&#8221; with &#8220;neo-folk&#8221;. TF did not even exist before nineties and it developed from the &#8220;neo-folk&#8221; music that appeared in the 1960s. It was connected with the massive immigration of Yugoslav workers to Germany where they were influenced by the music of the immigrants from Turkey and other countries. This is how many &#8220;oriental&#8221; elements transferred. &#8220;Neo-folk&#8221; was long neglected and ignored by the mainstream media in Yugoslavia as the communist cultural politics saw it as a deviation of culture, exactly like you do. Only in the eighties did it really emerge to the wider public scene, as one of the many consequences of the political and economic liberalisation after Tito&#8217;s death. Since the people of generally rural origin in Bosnia and Serbia liked that kind of music, publishing houses decided to tap into that market. Pop, rock and punk music also became more prominent in media, not because there was a conspiracy but because there was the scene with the audience ready to spend money.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t quite understand your idea of Austrian imposition of accordion. Those who brought the accordion obviously tried to play local songs with a new instrument. As a musician you should well understand how this happens. There is no politics in that.</p>
<p>To those who like Ahmed Karim don&#8217;t know: the people in Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Croatia all speak the same language (the grammar is the same, there are some lexical differences). So there is no way you can tell Bosniaks, Serbs or Croats living in Bosnia by the way they speak. </p>
<p>I hope that next time you write about sevdah, you will write more about music and less about politics.</p>
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